Pho Real (Lemon Grove)

Recently, before the warm up I was in Lemon Grove and decided to get some pho. I saw the sign for this shop and decided to stop by. Pho Real…….

Okay….very “punny”, eh? It was just after 9am; so Negro Durazo next door, which Cathy has posted on several times wasn’t open yet.

The interior is spacious, fairly modern. The menu board was filled with boba type drinks. I was the only customer in the place.

I decided to order “Special” Combo Pho, medium size…..of course there’s no “small”, only medium and large bowls ($15.50) . And since I was hungry I also got the Garlic Butter Wings ($11.75).

I quickly started noticing some of my pet peeves when the basil and sprouts arrived.

You see why, right?

At least it wasn’t overly discolored…….

And it got even more “interesting” when my bowl arrived.

You can quickly see how defatted and thin, the rather cloudy broth is.

It also had that “San Diego sweetish” and very salty flavor I’m not fond of, that is present in many versions of pho here. Very little beefiness….basically what I call the “wave broth”…you know, it’s like they waved a beef bone over the soup to impart flavor.

And when I “dug up” the noodles…..with all the stereotypes in play……you know what I’d find, right?

Yes, the banh pho was in a huge clump at the bottom of the bowl. Well, at least the noodles weren’t mushy, nor were they cold.

So perhaps things were slightly looking up?

The flank and brisket were really chewy and strangely, also lacked beefiness. The tripe though, was nice and crunchy and the one small piece of tendon quite soft and buttery.

You know, I’ve done over 150 posts on pho over the years and this is probably the most cliched, stereotypical bowl of San Diego Pho I’ve had! Or perhaps I’m just getting too picky?

I was nearly done with my pho when the wings arrived.

Look at that giant drumette. Like the pho, I thought this was rather mediocre. The batter was mushy and lacked crispness or crunchy texture. The sauce was a bit too sweet for my taste.

Worse of all….ready for this one? Most of the meat had that blackness that I find annoying.

Usually, I prefer the “flats” to the drumettes, but in this case the meat of the wings were really chewy, like jerky. Take a look at the flat below…..

And what was that round piece of chicken? Anatomically, what part of the chicken wing is that?

This meal had me wondering if I’d been pranked, as it seemed that all those things that I find annoying about pho were present here? Was this pho real for real? Perhaps this might be the one time that I find a “punny” name of a pho restaurant to be totally appropriate! Of course, I’d add a question mark at the end of the name.

I’m glad I took all those photos to show that I’m not exaggerating things.

Perhaps this was just an off day? If you’ve visited, let me know what you think?

Pho Real
6966 Federal Blvd.
Lemon Grove, CA 91945
Current Hours:
Daily 9am – 9pm

999 Quan Vietnamese Street Food

In the comments section of my post on the opening of Yorimichi 2, “FOY” Elle mentioned that the supposed second location of Phuong Nga next to World Foods Supermarket was going to be a place named 999 Quan Vietnamese Street Food. And recently, when I headed up to City Heights I passed by and noticed that the place had opened, so I changed my plans and stopped to take a look.

I saw that the place was indeed open, so I changed my plans and decided to eat here.

The photos of Banh Khot and Bun Rieu caught my eye as I entered the simply adorned restaurant.

I was pointed to a table and handed a menu, I quickly noticed that Banh Khot was not available at this time.

And also…the prices….yikes!

I had thoughts on trying the Bun Rieu, but I decided to try to get the Missus here to check that out….then perhaps Bun Bo Hue? In the end, I just went with the Bun suon bo vien – which was $18!!! But there was a 20% discount because it was grand opening week.

Ina somewhat funny moment….Vietnamese Music Videos were playing when I was seated. I was the only customer at the time. When I placed my order, the gentleman seemed a bit surprised that I didn’t speak Vietnamese….a few minutes later, Blues Videos in English started playing!! You gotta love it!

A glass of cold tea was dropped off…along with a plate of garnishes. Looks at all that Ngo Gai! Something that’s a rarity these days.

The bowl soon arrived and I quickly noticed something.

Along with the suon…the beef ribs…well the noodles didn’t look like bun, more like banh pho!

Which were perfectly cooked and not in a huge clump at the bottom of the bowl. There were nice droplets of fat floating on top of the broth adding a nice tongue feel. The amount of black pepper seemed quite excessive; but the pungency of that along with the raw onions really added to the flavor. Throw in the anise tones of the cilantro and ngo gai, all of this really complemented the soup, which to me was basically a nicely beefy pho. It did have a hint of that “sweetness” that permeates most pho in San Diego, but wasn’t bad at all.

The bo vien, the meatballs were typical, tough and squeaky, not my favorite thing in the world. The thicker slices of beef were decently tender and beefy. The crowning item of this bowl was the beef rib, you know, what I call “Them Bones“.

So tender….falling off the bone, nice and beefy!

This was possibly the best bowl of pho….even though it wasn’t called that on the menu; that I’ve had in a while. I prefer it to Pho Ca Dao which shares the same parking lot.

I tried to talk that Missus into a visit, but She kept declining. So, a couple of weeks later I returned. By now, each table had a menu placed on it! And they had changed the name of the Bun suon bo vien to Pho Suon Bo Vien. And raised the price by $2 to $20! Ouch!

I had thoughts of getting the Bun Bo Hue; but decided on just getting the Banh Mi Bo Kho ($15) instead. It had been a while since I’d had a decent bowl of Bo Kho as my old favorite place for the dish had changed ownership and my last bowl there was just ok.

The banh mi looked typical, but it was light, yeasty, crusty, and warm. The bowl of beef stew was fairly large as well.

The stew, was more of a broth, being on the thinner side. That said, it was full of beefy-anise flavor, with good tomato-pepper tones, and scorching hot!

The beef was super tender, the huge slices of carrots were as well. The tendon was super hard and crunchy…I prefer a more buttery texture.

Overall, loved the flavor, the tender chunks of beef. Would have preferred more tender tendon and a more stew like soup. Still, in terms of taste, it was quite good.

Several groups of older folks came in while I ate. A group of six women sat in back of me….they all ordered the Bun Rieu. Three gentleman, also on the older side came in a bit later, but hadn’t received their order when I had finished. The guy that I think is the owner was eating as I left….he was having Bun Rieu, so perhaps I can talk the Missus into visiting?

I’d probably come back again real soon….but those prices! They also have Bo Ne, that sizzling skillet dish that I only recall seeing at Thien Huong in Mira Mesa.

Elle, have you had a chance to visit 999 Quan? And if you did, what did you think? Thanks as always for the heads up!

999 Quan Vietnamese Street Food
5237 El Cajon Blvd.
San Diego, CA 92115
Current Hours:
Wed – Mon 9am – 9pm
Closed on Tuesday

Pho Leo & Grill

At the beginning of June I noticed a new Vietnamese restaurant was opening in Loma Square named Pho Leo & Grill while driving to Con Pane to pick up some sourdough. A week later the place seemed opened so I checked online and noticed a 930 opening time, which fit into my plans for the area during visits. So, I went and dropped by on my way back from Liberty Station. The place is just about a half block from Pho Point Loma.

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The parking lot is fairly expansive, especially earlier in the morning, even on a weekend. 

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The interior is fairly expansive, quite modern looking; especially when thinking in terms of what a traditional pho shop looks like. There's a large "grill" section as well. 

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The young folks working were very friendly. Looking over the menu and the name of the place, I decided to take it in parts. First the pho. I noticed that there's an option for fresh noodles, which interested me. So, I got the "P3", the "Pho Special" ($15.50) with fresh noodles and included all proteins except the now ubiquitous beef ribs that permeate all newish pho places these days.

In spite of the modern-westernized vibes I initially got; I was pleased to see ngo gai; somewhat of a rarity these days were provided along with the typical bean sprouts, basil, and lime.

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And unlike what I'd recently received with recent bowls of pho I've had; everything was quite fresh.

And soon enough, my quite generous bowl arrived.

Pho Leo 05 Pho Leo 06  Of course, the first thing I went for were the noodles; which somewhat reminded me of kway chap at first glance. Sadly, the noodles were cut into short pieces and were mushy in texture.

As for the broth, well, it lacked beefiness, and definitely was "San Diego sweet" in flavor. Which seems to be the status quo in our lovely city these days

Pho Leo 07  Pho Leo 08 Where "Leo" seems to excel is with the proteins. While the rare steak was not as bright red as I prefer, it was quite tender; a definite outlier these days. The tendon, while crosscut slices were used was quite tender as well. The tripe was crunchy, and the flank, toothsome as is the norm had a pleasant beefiness to it. The beefiness extended to the brisket as well, though it was on the tougher side.

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As things stood, pretty much an average bowl of pho at these modernish Vietnamese places, as is the price of fifteen bucks.

Of course I returned for part 2……to try out the "Grill" portion. 

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Same really nice service. I went with what would probably be designated as the Com Tam Dac Biet ($17) which comes with cha, tan hu ky, bi, and a choice of "meat" of thit nuong, pork chop, spare rib, or chicken. I went with the pork chop.

It was a pretty generous plate to be sure.

Pho Leo 12 Pho Leo 13  The nuoc mam was overly sweet for my taste, but the accompanying broth, which I assume is the pho broth, was much better than what I'd had during my previous visit. Yes, it was lighter…but it wasn't as sweet, with nice savory tones….I'm thinking that this was more like Pho Ga…chicken rather than beef. Doesn't it look like Pho Ga? Frankly, I should have asked.

Pho Leo 14  Pho Leo 15  The nice young man also kindly provided a portion of chili sauce for me as well.

As for the dish itself; well, the broken rice was on the harder, chewier side. The highlights for me was the bi, which was sliced quite thin, had a nice chewiness, a decent amount of roasted rice powder, and some porky slices of meat to go with it. And the pork chop…there were two pieces, which were sliced thin, toothsome as expected, nicely grilled and quite smoky, along with a savory fish sauce-garlic seasoning with hints of sweetness.

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 The fried bean curd with shrimp paste/cake wasn't fried enough and somewhat soggy, super rubbery, and quite bland.

The "cha", the steamed egg-pork "loaf" was cold, lacking in flavor, and on the chewier side as well. I like a lighter; porkier version. These two items seemed like versions you'd get at a Vietnamese Grocery store.

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I brought one of the pork chops and the leftover rice home for the Missus, who really enjoyed that pork chop. So perhaps we'll need to do another Com-Tam-Plation type visit here? No, it's definitely not "old school" Com Tam like Nhu Y, but the Missus enjoyed that pork chop.

Though I'll note that Soo did not enjoy that pork chop quite as much. You can read his post here. Pho Leo 19

Yes, Pho Leo & Grill is modernized Vietnamese, but at least it didn't seem overly dumbed down to me.

Pho Leo & Grill
2855 Midway Dr.
San Diego, CA 92110
Current Hours:
Daily 930am – 930pm

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Chào XO (National City)

Recently, the Missus wanted Her Cheesecake fix from Her favorite place. So, I drove on down to National City. Upon arriving at the normally chaotic Bay Plaza off Plaza Boulevard I was shocked at how much parking was available. Then I quickly noticed that both Big Lots and Joann Fabrics had closed down! 

Since I made the drive down; I decided to grab some lunch. Of course Golden Chopsticks was calling to me, or even Porky's Lechon.

But then I saw this place.

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Looked fairly new. I don't recall seeing it before? So, I decided to check it out.

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Hmmm….though the name made it seem like a Vietnamese Restaurant; there's a poster of Pad Thai in the window.

The interior is quite lovely and bright.

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And even though there was a short wait to be seen and seated; the young lady working was so sweet.

And even though the set-up looked fairly routine…..

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But the menu is a whole 'nother story. Yes there's pho….but there's also Birria, Ceviche, the afore mentioned Pad Thai, "Shaken" Saltado (I'm assuming something like Bo Luc Lac), Mushroom Rice, and even a version of Kare Kare? So, I decided to order something "fusiony" and something more in line with Vietnamese cuisine…….like some pho.

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As for that Anthony Bourdain Pho; well, I'd heard of a place in Irvine, that makes a bowl of pho inspired by Anthony Bourdain…and it seems like this is a copy? Sup Noodle Bar also makes a version of Lomo Saltado…so I'm thinking….. Anyway, I wasn't ordering that. I'm still haunted by the Missus coincidentally ordering what Bourdain ate for his last meal at Wistub de la Petite Venise in Colmar and hearing about folks wanting to see where he committed suicide in Kaysersberg when we visited the Alsace in the winter of 2018.

For my "fusiony" dish; I decided on trying the Spicy Birria Dumplings ($14).

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Which came with some consomme.

Chao XO 08 Chao XO 09  Well, this was a miss in my book. The "dumplings" seemed like fried frozen chicken gyoza you'd get at the market. Cardboardish wrappers, salty – chewy filling.

The birria was mild in terms of complex beefy-smoky-spicy tones (in spite of being warned that it was "spicy" by the nice young lady), it was stringy and chewy. Just not good eats. 

Chao XO 10 Chao XO 11  To me; the best part of this dish was the consomme, not because it had the complex, beefy-savory tones of a good consomme; but because it at least had some decent flavor. Though, it really tasted like "San Diego sweet" pho broth with some birria and beef flavoring. Perhaps this is what the "Birria Pho" on the menu tastes like?

I also ordered the Combo Pho ($17.25), which was noted to be the "Chef Choice" on the menu. First out was the rather sparse plate of sprouts, basil, lime, and jalapeno.

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I anticipated a rather small portion of these; but the basil was also starting to turn black as well.

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As for the pho…..

Chao XO 14  Chao XO 15 The broth had an abundance of cilantro and scallions which was good. It was very clear, though not seriously defatted. It did lack a definite beefiness and the anise tones I enjoy. As is typical of much of the pho in San Diego, it had that somewhat sweet background to it, in addition to being a bit too salty.

There was an abundance of protein; with the pleasantly crunchy tripe taking first prize and the slightly beefy and somewhat tender flank taking a close second.

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The noodles were severely overcooked and in a large mushy mass at the bottom of the bowl.

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A fairly mediocre bowl of pho….though perhaps my good friend Xiāngjiāo, who dined here the day after this visit said about the pho; "well it's edible….."

And so, in this day and age with the high prices, if it was just a mediocre meal; I would have let it pass and not done another visit. But this was less than that and I felt bad. So, with the Missus in need of another cheesecake, I headed back down to Bay Plaza. And yes, I decided to do another visit.

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This time; I wanted to try the wings; and the nice young lady working this lunch time recommended the Kare Curry.

So, I got things started with the Fried Chicken Wings ($13); I picked the Salt and Pepper version.

Chao XO 20 Chao XO 21 This was comprised of five pieces; two huge drumettes, and three "flats". The seasoning was quite good, some spice, perhaps a bit too much MSG, but I enjoyed it.

The flats were tender and moist; but because of the large size; the drummettes were tough and dry.

On another note; the wings were coated with a lacquer style, crisp batter. Two of the pieces were crisp and light; one had all the coating falling off, and as you notice in the comparison shot below; two of the pieces were not fried enough and the batter was soft and soggy. Still, this was the best item I had during my two visits.

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The nice young lady recommended that I get the pork belly with the Kare Curry ($21), which arrived with a bowl of rice.

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Looking at the dish; something Xiāngjiāo said quickly came to mind. She had visited with her family and ordered a variety of dishes. She noted that none of the dishes ordered even vaguely resembled the photos in the menu. I actually took a look at the menu and that typical "photos are for reference only" was not to be seen. Anyway, this difference was quite obvious with the Kare Curry.

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Chao XO 25   Chao XO 24Not to belabor the statement; but the color is totally different! As for the dish itself? Well, the sauce/stew was super thick; way too thick, lacking in the nice smooth creaminess of kare kare. Coconut milk had been added and this was overly sweet for my taste. Think of getting a jar of peanut butter and throwing in some coconut milk…..this lacked a satisfying savoriness for me.

The rice was on the dry side, but fine.

The bok choy and the green beans were decently stir fried; but the eggplant was undercooked for my taste.

And finally, the pork belly…sigh. The slices of pork belly were fried before putting in the dish and even though the pork flavor came thru nicely were tough and rubbery.

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Well, what to say….perhaps to paraphrase Xiāngjiāo, "well, it's edible…" But after spending nearly $90 for two lunches, well…..at least the service was very nice and friendly. And I am actually glad to have given the place two tries.

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Chào XO
1420 E Plaza Blvd.
National City, CA 91950
Current Hours:
Thurs – Tues 11am – 8pm
Closed on Wednesday

Pho G-Beef (Rancho Penasquitos)

Back in the beginning of April, "FOY" Dereck sent me an email regarding a pho shop that had recently opened in Rancho Penasquitos. The part of the email which really caught my attention read:

"I don't want to make any promises, but it was the best pho I have had in a while. The broth was beefy and not defatted. I didn't taste much sweet if any, not much anise, and a little salty, but still it was great."

Hmmm, pho broth not "San Diego sweet"? Ok, sold! I decided to go ahead and make the 20+ mile drive to check the place out; located in the corner of the busy Rancho Penasquitos Towne Center.

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The place is very well lit and clean. The young folks working were welcoming and friendly.

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I went ahead and just ordered a "medium" G-Beef Special ($15.50).

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I was not impressed with the sprouts and basil.

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It was a fairly small portion and some of the basil had turned color and were getting slimy.

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And soon my bowl arrived.

Pho G Beef 06  Pho G Beef 07 I quickly noticed that the soup was quite dark and seriously defatted. It did lack the richness; but like Dereck had mentioned, while short on anise tones, though you could actually taste the cilantro,  it did not have that pervasive "sweetness" that most of the pho in San Diego has. It was also fairly beefy in flavor. Taking a closer look at the soup, I noticed quite a preponderance of small pieces of beef in it. It also wasn't overly salty. This was pretty good.

I then started checking out the proteins, when I noticed something….no tripe, lots of beefy brisket, but no flank; the "Rare steak"….well, there was overcooked thinly sliced beef. As for the "tendon", there seem to be shreds of chewy, what seemed to be neck tendon. Perhaps there was some mix-up? I was the only customer in the place….. Since I'd had the soup, put the sprouts in, tasted the noodles, I just decided to go with the flow here.

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The noodles were decently prepped and had a good "stretch" to them.

Overall, a nicely flavored broth, not sure what happened with the proteins, kinda lacking in QC with the blackening basil. I'm thinking that I'll need to return in a couple of months….even though it's a bit of a drive, to see how things are.

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Dereck, this place definitely seems to have some potential! Thanks for the recommendation!

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Pho G Beef
13297 Black Mountain Rd. Suite 6
San Diego, CA 92129
Current Hours:
Sun – Thurs 1030am – 830pm
Fri – Sat        1030am – 9pm

Pho Kha

During my first try at checking out Phonomenal the place was packed. I drove by and saw a line down the block and of course no parking to be found. I hadn't even considered a "plan b". Then I recalled a place that was mentioned to me a while back. I parked on the side of 8th Street and looked up the address. The only reason I remembered the place was that the guy recommending the shop said something that sounded like "Fa-Kha"…….now this was right after we got back from a visit "home". I think ex-pat Kama'aina's like Mar, Kyle, Bruddah James, or Alan might understand why my first response was "what you called me?" Of course I started cracking up when I realized that was the name of the restaurant. The guy had no idea why I was laughing to myself…..he gave me one odd look and went back to having his beer.

Anyway, looking up the place, I noticed the address 2424 Hoover Avenue……whoa, this was in a part of National City I hadn't been to in ages! I think the last time I was close by was when Mi Pana was open. I drove on over and found the shop in that strip mall, with a Starbucks, Denny's, Jersey Mike's and Handel's.

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It's a tiny shop, this was a weekend, if I recall, with all businesses, weekdays are busier here. Plus it was 1030 on a Sunday, thus the place was empty.

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I was pointed to a table, had a seat and given a menu. 

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I was here to see how the basic pho was; so I went with the P3 – Rare Steak, Brisket, Tendon, and Tripe; regular size ($15.75).

And then the utensils arrived……

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And along with the single sprig of basil….well, you know.

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The bowl didn't look to bad when it arrived.

Pho Kha 06 Pho Kha 08  The broth was super salty and "San Diego sweet". It was really defatted, thin, and lacking in richness. There was an abundance of scallion which was nice, but not enough cilantro to overcome the overly salty-sweet soup.

The most interesting was when I took a look at the proteins. Check out the "rare steak"……all the pieces were fully cooked, dry, and tough. There was one piece of hard tendon. The brisket/flank was sliced a bit thick, but had nice beefiness. The best item was the abundant tripe; nice and crunchy.

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There was a generous amount of noodles which were decently prepared.

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I guess this is what a sixteen dollar bowl of pho is these days?

I'm glad to have tried the pho here, but see no reason to return.

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The service was all business and my bowl came out fairly quickly.

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Pho Kha
2424 Hoover Ave.
National City, CA 91950
Current Hours:
Daily 9am – 9pm

Phonomenal

I've been doing a bit of research on expanding my "pho-risens". As I mentioned in my previous "pho-raging" post, it was time to try a couple of new places, "pho-better" or "pho-worse"…..ok, I'll stop with the puns for now!

During my searches, Phonomenal in National City kept coming up. Though it says it's "Khmer" influenced, whatever that means. Was it pho or keay teav? Which I don't consider Khmer, but as more of a Cambodian-Chinese (Chiuchow/Teochow) hybrid. The closest I've had while Visiting Cambodia was Num Banh Chok at a crossroads village outside of Siem Reap. The "pho-tos" sure looked like typical pho, a bit darker perhaps, and with most people raving about 'dem bones (xi quách sưon bò) which Pho Duyen Mai used to make fairly well before the new ownership

So, I decided to head on over. The shop is only open Thursday to Sunday from 10am to 5pm, or until they run out of soup.

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I noticed a line when I I drove over just before 10. I found parking and by the time I walked to the door, the crowd was in the shop. This is what it looked like at 5 minutes past 10. All the tables, the two and four-tops are communal. I sat next to a very nice Korean couple.

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And the place was soon full!

The menu has basically one type of pho, spring rolls, and a bunch of drinks on the menu.

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And so it was the House Special ($18.95) for me. I didn't know what to expect, would it be pho or keay teav, of which I've had the Vietnamese version Hu Tieu Nam Vang many times.

Well, the small portion of sprouts-basil-chili-lime made this really seem Vietnamese.

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Soon enough my bowl arrived, with three ribs full of meat in full display. Now I knew why this place was popular.

Phonomenal 05 Phonomenal 06  I liked the amount of cilantro and scallion in the broth, it added a nice fragrance and flavor. The meat was tender, though it seemed to not be as beefy as I would have desired. Still, if you're a major carnivore, you might enjoy this. Personally, I like a variety of cuts, texture, and flavors.

Sadly, the noodles were overcooked and mushy.

The broth was nice and dark, decently, not overly defatted, there was a nice herbaceous-anise flavor, along with a mild beefiness. It did have that overly "sweet" tone that permeates San Diego pho. My main issue was how salty it was. I was chugging  H2o all afternoon.

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The service is nice and efficient. There was a waiting list a page long when I went to the counter and paid. Tons of folks were doing takeout. Like I said, if you're a carnivore, this might be your place. For me, there's more to pho than just the meat. I did notice that there didn't seem to be a Vietnamese customer in sight. The couple next to me were of Korean heritage and the young lady was complaining about how salty things were.

Still, perhaps this is the bowl for you. 

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A bit over-hyped, but not bad.

Phonomenal
811 K Ave.
National City, CA 91950
Current Hours
Thurs – Sun 10am – 5pm or until they run out
Closed Mon – Wed

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Pho Cow Cali Express (Mira Mesa) and Pho Hiep and Grill (Linda Vista) Revisited

I mentioned in my post on Pho Hoa that I needed to start doing my "pho-raging rounds" again. And the recent rather chilly weather seemed like a reminder that I needed to keep my word. So, I managed two revisits last week. My impressions were rather interesting.

Pho Cow Cali Express (Mira Mesa):

Man, has it been nearly seven years since my last visit to "Da Cow"? Man, does time fly! The main catalyst for my revisit to Cow Cali were the huge lines I saw during my two visits to Mom Kitchen. Sheesh! Keeping that in mind, I timed my weekday visit for an early lunch at 10am.

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And there was no line. The host stand with the "please wait to be seated" sign is something that wasn't there before. I'm guessing it's probably due to the crazy lines?

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Even though I could see that the restaurant was fairly empty, I decided to wait. Then two young guys walked up and basically brushed me aside and just walked into the restaurant….. Sigh…you gotta love manners these days, right? Anyway, the gentleman saw me waiting and waved me in before the two rude dudes. One of them gave me the finger and I just smiled…..

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Like on my previous visits; I just stuck with a small #4. I was shocked when my order came out in less than four minutes!!! Do we have a new contender for the "fastest pho in the west"? Perhaps this is why they added the "Express" to the name?

Cow Cali Rev 04  Cow Cali Rev 05  First thing I noticed was how "clear" the broth was. Second thing was how the basil was starting to brown. Well, at least there was some ngo gai, a rarity these days it seems. I enjoy the more intense the peppery-cilantro-ish-slightly bitter flavor it provides. Even this leaf was starting to go south as well; I could use most of it. 

Cow Cali Rev 06  Cow Cali Rev 10 As for the broth…can you say MSG water? With a dose of that sweetness that has been pervading pho in San Diego over the last decade or so. The soup was quite thirst inducing; or perhaps I'm just more sensitive to the stuff as I get older?

Which led me to wonder why the lines during certain times of the day? I think it's because of the proteins. I enjoyed the crunchy tripe. The tendon was not cooked to the soft, almost creaminess I enjoy, but was still good. The flank was nice and beefy, along with being fairly tender.

Cow Cali Rev 08  Cow Cali Rev 09 There was a good amount of meat in this "small bowl". So perhaps that's the calling card?

The noodles were in the typical clump at the bottom of the bowl; but the portion was plentiful, and it was perfectly prepared, not hard nor overly mushy.

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This gave me a more clear understanding of my preferences when it comes to pho. I guess for me, the soup is the most important. 

The service was much better than I recall it being before.

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Pho Cow Cali Express
9170 Mira Mesa Blvd
San Diego, CA 92126 

Pho Hiep and Grill (Linda Vista):

During my meal at Pho Hoa, wondered how Pho Hiep and Grill, which is in the same strip mall was doing. It had been over six years since my last visit and even longer since I last had a bowl of pho here. So, I decided to drop by, again for an early lunch.

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I was surprised to see how busy the parking lot was at 930 on a weekday! 

The restaurant itself was pretty sedate at least compared to Pho Hoa which I drove past in the parking lot.

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I ordered the #4 here as well. And within a few minutes the herbs and veggies arrived. I was pleasantly surprised with how fresh and plentiful everything was. And yes there was ngo gai here as well….heck, Pho Hoa had none on my last visit!

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And soon later the soup arrived.

Hiep and Grill Rev 04 Hiep and Grill Rev 06   The soup, while being a bit overly defatted had some beefiness, mild anise-oniony tones, while it still had that "San Diego" sweet flavor. It wasn't overly salty. This was better than I recall having on previous visits.

The noodles were in the typical clump at the bottom of the bowl and a bit under cooked.

Hiep and Grill Rev 05  Hiep and Grill Rev 07  The proteins, while not as well prepared as "da cow" were fine, though there was no tendon to be found! The flank and brisket were cut a bit on thicker side, but the beefiness came through. The tripe was a bit more "hard" than crunchy.

Still, in contrast to my expectations, I preferred this bowl to what I'd had at Cow Cali and might have even enjoyed it more than Pho Hoa! What the pho???? Again, perhaps I put too much emphasis on the broth.

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Pho Hiep & Grill
6947 Linda Vista Road
San Diego, CA 92111

I actually enjoyed this comparison, though the results were not quite what I thought they'd be. It could be that I had chosen the "right day" for one and a "bad day" for the other?

What do you think?

Pho Hoa Linda Vista Revisited – Is it still the “fastest pho in the west?”

These days I need to plan tings around JJ's schedule. Recently, after a jaunt to the farmer's market, well JJ had burned up a lot of his puppy energy. So, I thought I'd go ahead and grab something to eat. Of course it couldn't be too far, it was still fairly early for many places, and most of all, I didn't want to leave him too long before heading back to feed him lunch.

Suddenly, Pho Hoa Linda Vista came to mind. Remember when I declared them the "fastest pho in the west"? Duh…… Of course, things have mellowed over the years, but based on my last visit dining in, back in February 2020, when it took 3 minutes and 45 seconds to get my bowl, well, it was still amazingly fast.

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My last visit was for takeout during Covid. Yes, it's been that long. So much has changed since then. It left me wondering how things were these days.

Well, it started pretty much the same. I walked in, a table was pointed to me. A nice woman brought me the menu; she actually smiled and said hello. The other woman returned less than a minute after the menu was provided, which was fine since I knew what I wanted.

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The place wasn't very busy and it was 10am on a Saturday. And my bowl of #4, now $12.25 ($10 on my last visit) hit my table in 4 minutes 10 seconds…hmmm…… a whole 25 seconds slower than on my last dine in visit, it seems like they are slipping, huh?

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The bean sprouts were starting to brown, though were acceptable, those leaves on the basil were huge, but there was no ngo gai! A sign of the times I guess?

Pho Hoa LV Rev 05  Pho Hoa LV Rev 06  The soup was lip meltingly hot, with mild anise-beefy tones, but it had that attribute of a lot of the pho in San Diego; the "mild sweetness". It was msg heaven cause I was chugging water like crazy when I got back home.

The well done steak and brisket were really tough and dry, the tripe had a nice crunch and the flank was beefy and decently toothsome. Sadly, tendon was MIA.

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I liked that the noodles weren't in the typical clump at the bottom of the bowl, but was a bit overcooked and heading toward "mushy land", so I tried to eat it as quickly as I could.

Overall, definitely not as good as I recalled, though the price is quite reasonable for these days. And I was out of the place in 20 minutes and made it home to take JJ for a nice walk and rest, before making him lunch.

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Still, not as good as I recalled, and not what I expected from one of the "OG" pho shops in San Diego. I guess I need to start making my "rounds" again!

Pho Hoa Linda Vista
6921 Linda Vista Rd.
San Diego, CA 92111
Current Hours:
Daily 830am – 830pm

Pho Tan

Life is kind of interesting, sometimes things just happen. A good friend, who shall remain nameless….you'll soon see why, had recommended a place for Jiaozi……which based on previous experience I wasn't too keen on, after all, I'd been to the short lived location once and never did a post. Still, because I was going to be in the area, I decided to drop by. Unfortunately, or more perhaps, fortunately, the place was closed.

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Well, perhaps this time my timing was good, right? After all, I wasn't looking for alternate sources of protein on this day.

But, it was time for an early lunch, and I had a place on my list, which "FOY" SDJulie mentioned in the comments on my last post on Pho Duyen Mai. I thought it was just the right place at the right time.

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Pho Tan. I think this used to be Pho Poway, or something like that? Anyway, I walked on in; the shop was fairly empty except for a couple of folks doing takeout.

I was guided to a table. Thankfully, unlike what Julie had experienced and mentioned, the AC was working well on this day.

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The young lady working was very nice. I looked over the menu and in the end decided to get good 'ol #17, the pho with well done flank, brisket, tendon, and tripe ($14.50).

Soon enough a rather sparse plate of sprouts and basil was delivered to my table.

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And then a rather large bowl of pho was delivered. I wasn't expecting it to be so large!

Pho Tan 04  Pho Tan 05 First thing I noticed was how dark the broth was. Second thing was what was slightly submerged. Good lord, it was a huge slice of brisket! Unfortunately, it was too thick, and ended up being very chewy.

The scalding broth had a hint of that "San Diego sweetness" that pho seems to have here, but it wasn't overwhelming. It was super hot, not overly salty, with a hint of beefiness. Not bad at all.

Pho Tan 06 Pho Tan 07  I had to kind of take my time since that broth was super hot, so I'm not sure if it contributed to the noodles, being delivered in the typical clump on the bottom of the bowl, being on the mushy side.

I was surprised to see so much tripe and tendon in this bowl; along with all that chewy flank, this was a meat lover's dream bowl. Sadly, the tripe seemed not cooked long enough, and like that brisket, was super tough. Think of trying to chew on rubber bands.

The flank while being a bit chewy was not as tough as the brisket and had some nice beefiness. Based on all of the other proteins in the bowl, I expected the tendon to be hard and crunchy, but it was quite tender.

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Overall, I'd say it measures up well to just about anything I can get in Kearny Mesa. I'd gladly return in an instant for a revisit if it wasn't almost a 50 mile round trip for me. The folks working seem to be very nice. As it stands, I'm glad I checked the place out and will be sure to return to try other things on the menu; i.e. the Banh Mi Bo Kho, when I'm in the area.

After all, I won't be getting dumplings in that other shop anytime soon!

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Pho Tan
12316 Poway Rd.
Poway, CA 92064
Current Hours:
Wed – Mon 10am – 830pm
Closed on Tuesday

Thanks for reminding me about this place Julie!