While having lunch with Calvin at Hong Kong Kitchen & Dim Sum…well, our conversation veered, as it always does, into food. Among the places he mentioned to me was his new go-to pho shop in his neighborhood of Scripps Ranch. Called Pho and Wings. It’s in walking distance so he can head there during his WFH (Work From Home) days or even during certain evenings. I’d never heard of the place; so I looked it up when I got back home. After doing that search thing, I found that the place has an “alias” of Pho Nam Cali 2…… I’d heard of Pho Nam Cali in National City, so I’m thinking this is their second shop? Perhaps listing chicken wings to tempt other folks in? I liked that they open at 10am, so headed on over on a Sunday morning.
The shop is located in one of those numerous strip malls…this one has a location of Mickey D’s, Von’s, Starbucks, along with a couple of, I believe non-chain places as well.
The interior is bright and colorful….and I do mean bright and colorful!
The menu was completely in English. The woman working was so sweet and mellow. I simply ordered the House Special Pho ($16.99). I believe there are sometimes clues as to a place’s typical customer base. Like, I’m Asian, ordered pho, and still got a fork delivered to my table.
I did get a mild beefy-pungent fragrance when the bowl of pho arrived, a good sign.
The amount of sprouts and basil was typical for many places these days…rather sparse. But at least it looked quite fresh.
The broth had that typical “San Diego sweet – sodium blast” flavor, though it did have a mild beefiness. It did register as being a bit thin in terms of tongue feel as it was seriously defatted.
The noodles were in a serious clump at the bottom of the bowl. And, in an interesting change of pace, seriously undercooked. You can tell how stiff they are in the photo.
Well, I’m used to over cooked mushy noodles….undercooked, is a new one for me!
The rare steak was very lean and chewy, as was the flank. There was a serious lack of flavor as well.
I did appreciate the tripe, which was nice and crunchy. There was quite a bit of it as well.
Overall, an ok bowl of pho. Nothing to go out of your way for and there’s much better to be found in Mira Mesa.
Still, that woman was so sweet and kind. She kept making sure my water was refilled. And, since the place is named Pho and Wings…well, I had to try the wings, right? So, a couple of weeks later I returned.
Same really sweet woman was working. I was going to get the wings for sure.
But I needed to order something else as well. I looked over the menu and decided on the Beef Salad ($9). This is what arrived.
Iceberg lettuce, cherry tomato, and cucumbers, topped with a mildly marinated, but fairly tender stir fried beef. Very typical soy based flavor. A fairly typical sesame dressing, kind of on the watery side. My favorite part of the salad were the fried shallots, nice and slightly crisp, with that sweet-pungent onion like flavor.
I really didn’t expect Bo Tai Chanh, so I wasn’t disappointed. And at least this seemed a bit healthy and was somewhat refreshing……
Because the Fried Chicken Wings ($10.99) were up next.
The menu says “crispy” which this was not. It’s lightly breaded, but not crisp, more chewy and gets soggy quickly. Simply seasoned, that sesame dressing was provided here as well.
The meat of the flats was moist and fairly tender. The drumettes were really tough and chewy. The flavor was simple and nothing really stood out. Except that super jumbo and really chewy drumette.
I’m thinking that this is ok neighborhood pho; the woman working is wonderful, but the pho and especially the wings are nothing special. In other words, if I’m on the 15 North I’m taking the exit before Scripps Poway Parkway….that would be Mira Mesa, for my pho fix.
Pho and Wings-Pho Nam Cali 2
10549 Scripps Poway Pkwy.
San Diego, CA 92131
Current Hours:
Daily 10am – 9pm
Of course, the first thing I went for were the noodles; which somewhat reminded me of kway chap at first glance. Sadly, the noodles were cut into short pieces and were mushy in texture.
Where "Leo" seems to excel is with the proteins. While the rare steak was not as bright red as I prefer, it was quite tender; a definite outlier these days. The tendon, while crosscut slices were used was quite tender as well. The tripe was crunchy, and the flank, toothsome as is the norm had a pleasant beefiness to it. The beefiness extended to the brisket as well, though it was on the tougher side.
The nuoc mam was overly sweet for my taste, but the accompanying broth, which I assume is the pho broth, was much better than what I'd had during my previous visit. Yes, it was lighter…but it wasn't as sweet, with nice savory tones….I'm thinking that this was more like Pho Ga…chicken rather than beef. Doesn't it look like Pho Ga? Frankly, I should have asked.
The nice young man also kindly provided a portion of chili sauce for me as well.
Well, this was a miss in my book. The "dumplings" seemed like fried frozen chicken gyoza you'd get at the market. Cardboardish wrappers, salty – chewy filling.
To me; the best part of this dish was the consomme, not because it had the complex, beefy-savory tones of a good consomme; but because it at least had some decent flavor. Though, it really tasted like "San Diego sweet" pho broth with some birria and beef flavoring. Perhaps this is what the "Birria Pho" on the menu tastes like?
The broth had an abundance of cilantro and scallions which was good. It was very clear, though not seriously defatted. It did lack a definite beefiness and the anise tones I enjoy. As is typical of much of the pho in San Diego, it had that somewhat sweet background to it, in addition to being a bit too salty.
This was comprised of five pieces; two huge drumettes, and three "flats". The seasoning was quite good, some spice, perhaps a bit too much MSG, but I enjoyed it.
Not to belabor the statement; but the color is totally different! As for the dish itself? Well, the sauce/stew was super thick; way too thick, lacking in the nice smooth creaminess of kare kare. Coconut milk had been added and this was overly sweet for my taste. Think of getting a jar of peanut butter and throwing in some coconut milk…..this lacked a satisfying savoriness for me.
I quickly noticed that the soup was quite dark and seriously defatted. It did lack the richness; but like Dereck had mentioned, while short on anise tones, though you could actually taste the cilantro, it did not have that pervasive "sweetness" that most of the pho in San Diego has. It was also fairly beefy in flavor. Taking a closer look at the soup, I noticed quite a preponderance of small pieces of beef in it. It also wasn't overly salty. This was pretty good.
The broth was super salty and "San Diego sweet". It was really defatted, thin, and lacking in richness. There was an abundance of scallion which was nice, but not enough cilantro to overcome the overly salty-sweet soup.
I liked the amount of cilantro and scallion in the broth, it added a nice fragrance and flavor. The meat was tender, though it seemed to not be as beefy as I would have desired. Still, if you're a major carnivore, you might enjoy this. Personally, I like a variety of cuts, texture, and flavors.
First thing I noticed was how "clear" the broth was. Second thing was how the basil was starting to brown. Well, at least there was some ngo gai, a rarity these days it seems. I enjoy the more intense the peppery-cilantro-ish-slightly bitter flavor it provides. Even this leaf was starting to go south as well; I could use most of it. 
As for the broth…can you say MSG water? With a dose of that sweetness that has been pervading pho in San Diego over the last decade or so. The soup was quite thirst inducing; or perhaps I'm just more sensitive to the stuff as I get older?
There was a good amount of meat in this "small bowl". So perhaps that's the calling card?
The soup, while being a bit overly defatted had some beefiness, mild anise-oniony tones, while it still had that "San Diego" sweet flavor. It wasn't overly salty. This was better than I recall having on previous visits.
The proteins, while not as well prepared as "da cow" were fine, though there was no tendon to be found! The flank and brisket were cut a bit on thicker side, but the beefiness came through. The tripe was a bit more "hard" than crunchy.