Roadtrip – Brodard (Fountain Valley), Wing Hop Fung, and Mandarin Noodle House (Monterey Park)

A few months back, what is now several road trips ago, we decided to head on back to one of our favorite lunch restaurants in Santa Barbara County. Instead of making it a single over night stay, we decided to stretch things out into three nights. We'd be doing a bunch of shopping along the way and be able to take our time. We'd spend the first night at the huge Courtyard by Marriott again, then head off the next morning.

We started off early, with thoughts of hitting up Canton Restaurant – Cháo Cá Chợ Cũ again. But we had gotten an early start and the Missus changed Her mind and suddenly requested a visit to Brodard. Brodard! I told Her that Brodard had moved since we last visited over a decade ago(!). Cathy has visited the "new" (it's all relative) location a couple of times

We arrived a shade past 9am.

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The place was almost empty, with one two top occupied.

The restaurant is quite large, with a dedicated takeout area. The space is modern and clean.

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I could never have imagined Brodard being this quiet.

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Service was quite pleasant and relaxed.

Of course we had to order the Nem Nuong Cuon. These days you can order just two rolls if you want for $2.50 each!

IMG_1123  IMG_1124 These seem a little smaller than I recall, but the sausage was nicely grilled and the proportion of ingredients seemed right, so one could enjoy the salty-sweet-savory flavors of the "bouncy" nem nuong and the crunch of the crisp egg roll wrapper. The wrapping was done perfectly, neither too loose nor too tight which would make the rolls tougher, creating what I'd call "bad botox spring rolls". The sauce was as before slightly sweet-sour, with garlic and umami tones. I does seem a bit more watered down than I recalled.

We also got the Banh Khot ($14.95).

IMG_1127  IMG_1132 I did notice that one of the shrimp was "MIA". Still, the Missus enjoys the crisp rice flour cup/shell, which has a hint of coconut. The shrimp were plump and tender, nicely cooked. These are quite a treat with the mung beans, pickled veggies, the anise-citrusy tiet to (perilla), and the slightly sweet-chili-fish sauce concoction.

We're glad we stopped by and will make sure to visit more often.

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Brodard Restaurant
16105 Brookhurst St.
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
Hours:
Daily 8am – 9pm

We then headed off to the SGV. We did some shopping at the TS Emporium off Rosemead (I'll do a bunch of shopping/misc posts later) and some other stops before heading to the Courtyard. We were lucky enough to be able to check in early and spent the rest of the afternoon napping.

We hadn't made any plans for dinner. We were just going to play it by ear. It was a Wednesday, so we didn't expect things to be too crowded. The Missus wanted to walk to our dinner destination, so we headed down Atlantic, pausing at Daikokuya, then crossing over and taking look at a couple of places. We crossed back over Garvey and noticed Wing Hop Fung in the strip mall that housed 99 Ranch Market.

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We had passed by many times over the years, thinking this was something along the lines of TS Emporium. But once entering….whoa….

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The Missus made a beeline for the teas.

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And really took Her time checking out the Pu-Erh. Well, this was no cheapo shop.

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It seemed like some good quality products here.

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And in case you have $1800 lying around.

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And the wine/liquor section was no less intense.

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They also carry a good selection of Kavalan, one of our favorite brands. My favorite over time has been the Amontillado Sherry Single Cask Malt Whiskey. Our visit to the Kavalan Distillery affirmed that it is still my favorite. You can get that here. It's ahem, "only" $549 a bottle. I'll just admire it from afar for now….

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We enjoyed our time in Wing Hop Fung, it looks like the herbs/tea are high quality and the selection is vast. I understand that for many years Wing Hop Fung had a very popular store in LA's Chinatown. Though I really don't recall that.

Wing Hop Fung
725 W Garvey Ave.
Monterey Park, CA 91754

We walked out of the store suffering from a bit of sticker shock. We decided to get something comforting and simple for dinner. We had passed a Taiwanese place right around the corner named Mandarin Noodle House many times over the years . It had been around back in the days when we lived in the SGV! I was really missing the pork chops I'd enjoyed in Taiwan, so I thought it would a great time to finally stop by. We turned the corner and there it was.

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The restaurant is simply adorned, a typical mom-and-pop type establishment that immediately made us comfortable. The prices seemed so reasonable.

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The gentleman working was nice and efficient. Ordering was a breeze as we immediately set our sights on two dishes.

Of course I wanted the Pork Chops. At $14.95, this seemed a bargain for these times.

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The rice was decently cooked, the pickled greens were fine. The soy sauce egg had been cooked to death, the yolk dry. I enjoyed the Taiwanese spinach. The pork chops had a good amount of pepper, but not enough five spice flavor, was on the salty side, and really tough and chewy. Sadly, it did not remind me of Taiwan.

The Missus got the Pig's Feet ($14.95).

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Which came with the same cooked to death soy sauce eggs. But after that, things got so much better. The wonderful porky-sweet-savory-soy based sauce had been poured over the rice. Oh man, talk about comforting! The pigs feet had been cooked perfectly; still intact, but the skin was so tender, the flavor of the cooking liquid had permeated every nook and cranny of the trotters. Once the skin was off, the meat fell of the bones, porky deliciousness. We got a winnah here!

By this time, folks had started coming into the restaurant. Different nationalities, all classes, from guys in workwear and boots speaking Spanish, to three guys in suit and ties, an older couple who knew the guy working. All converging on this little business, it was great to see. Looks like Mandarin Noodle House might be what I call a "thread in the fabric" of this neighborhood! 

Mandarin Noodle House
701 W Garvey Ave.
Monterey Park, CA 91754
Hours:
Daily 1030am – 9pm

Viet Nom – A Soft Opening Visit

During my visit to Renaissance Towne Center to see what was going on, I had intended to getting a Chicago Dog from Chicago Fire Grill. However, I noticed a business that I hadn't heard a peep about named Viet Nom. And the place was open.

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The sign said "soft opening" and things were 10% off until mid-April. So, I decided to head on in to check things out.

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The interior is small, with just a few tables and a counter. The young lady who was working was nice and professional. She was also quite patient with the folks walking in to ask if they had sandwiches (they don't) and other questions.

The menu is small; three versions of pho and six sides, including youtiao, sesame balls, and such. The prices were also on the high side, but I decided to order their Pho Nom which was $19.50 and some Tamarind Wings, which was $16.50.

And then, while waiting, I saw this.

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And then I realized what jogged my memory. I asked the young lady if this place had the same owner as Formoosa and Steamy Piggy and was told "yes". Ugh…..I haven't had much luck with the food from either place which just seemed all about concept. In fact, "FOY" Kenneth had asked me why I haven't gone to Flama Llama yet, knowing I love Peruvian Cuisine and I replied about having eaten at F and SP, which gave me pause when thinking about eating there and also at the company's new "KFC" place (you can read about Soo's visit here).

Anyway, it was too late to back out now and my wings soon arrived.

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The coating on the wings were getting soggy quickly and ended up being more mushy than crisp-crunchy. The flavor of the glaze was extremely sweet, way too sweet for my taste, as it over powered all other flavors. The quality of the wings didn't seem too bad, though this was a bit much for me and I only finished two wings.

Soon enough the sprouts and accoutrements for the pho arrived.

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I'm not sure if it's just me; but the portion sizes of sprouts, basil, and seem to have shrunk. The basil, as seems to be the norm these days was turning brown.

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As for the bowl of pho; it was humongous.

Viet Nom 07  Viet Nom 09 It was loaded with meat. The beef rib, their version of Xí Quách Suon Bò had also been seared a bit before service. The sliced "short rib" (as defined in the menu) was cut too thick, super tough, and lacked flavor. Strangely, what is usually not my favorite item in a bowl of pho, the squeaky meatballs was the item I enjoyed the most. Of course, there was no option for tendon or tripe. The rib meat came off the bone cleanly, was decently tender, but seemed to have had all the beefiness cooked out of it. Yes, it was a large portion of meat.

Viet Nom 10  Viet Nom 08 The huge clump of noodles were mushy and over cooked. The broth was super bland….I do complain a bit about how pho broth in San Diego seems to be on the sweeter side of the scale….well, you know what, I would have gladly accepted that here! Much like the Niu Rou Mian broth at Formoosa, the soup here seemed to have been made using the "wave" method, whereupon a piece of beef was waved over some water to hopefully create flavor. The broth was super thin and watery. This seemed to be more about presentation and portion size.

Well, at least I got 10% off; even though the wings cost $16.50 and the pho $19.50. Viet Nom made Xin Chao seem like first rate pho. The thought that this is the future of pho depresses me. I usually do more than one visit; but since the place has just 9 items on the menu; three of them pho and one version of broth with the rib meat in it, I'm just going to say "Viet No" to "Viet Nom" for now.

Of course, with my luck, a couple of days later there's a post on Eater about Viet Nom. If only it had been posted before my visit. Though there was one tidbit of information in that post. Looks like the owner of these places that makes everything from Dumplings to Taiwanese to Peruvian/Latin American to Korean Fried Chicken to Pho is now going to open a ramen shop…….

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One last, somewhat humorous item. I brought the remainder of the wings back to the office and told folks about it. One of the guys really enjoyed the wings. I was fascinated and asked him why. He told me "this tastes just like Panda Express….I love Panda Express!" 'Nuff said….

Viet Nom
8895 Towne Centre Dr.
San Diego, CA 92122
Current Hours:
Sun – Thurs 11am – 930pm
Fri – Sat        11am – 1030pm

Midweek Meanderings – Mama Lin’s Replacing Saigon 5, it’s now Ujin Ramen instead of Hanyuzu Ramen, Honeyjam Chicken Looks ready to open? And the new sign for Golden City

So, here's some "stuffs" I found while driving around. Actually, this is just a couple of places, there's much more, but the title of the post was getting too long!

Mama Lin's Replacing Saigon 5:

So, on a previous visit to 99 Ranch Market on Balboa, I noticed that Sip n' Cluck was replacing Krispy Krunchy Chicken. Imagine my surprise on my last trip to 99 Ranch when I went to the restroom and saw that a stand named Mama Lin's was replacing Saigon 5!

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Makes me wonder if business in this food court is not particularly busy. The place never seems busy…..

5950 Balboa Ave (Inside 99 Ranch Market)
San Diego, CA 92111

It's now Ujin Ramen instead of Hanyuzu Ramen:

**** You can find my post on Ujin here.

So, I've been avoiding Renaissance Towne Center because of all the crazy road work. Heck, I have to deal with the ever changing traffic patterns on Clairemont Drive; why would I want to expose myself to more of the same? Still, after 7 months or so of avoiding the area, I decided to to head on over to Chicago Fire Grill to see what's going on. In the end, I ended up trying a new place that opened up there (post upcoming) and got to see what was going on.

Ujin 01 Ujin 02 Since I arrived before 11, I took a stroll around the strip mall. It was quite interesting. Back in August of 2022 it seemed like a shop named Ramen Hanyuzu was coming to this mall. In June of 2023, ditto. But now, in March of 2024, it looks like Ujin Ramen is coming to this spot?

My goodness……

8935 Towne Centre Drive #113
San Diego, CA 92122

And what about Honeyjam Chicken?:

Good question. I mean way back in 2021, this spot was going to be JJ Chicken. Then, in October of 2022, "FOY" Patty and Rena alerted me to changes. Apparently, the place was now going to Honeyjam Chicken. Of course, it's now March of 2024. 

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Well, there seems to be some work going on here. Still, not sure if or when they will open. It must be so frustrating for folks in the area who are looking forward to these businesses open. But can you imagine; that we're hiring sign has been up since I first saw the place in October of 2022. I mean, really, you want staff…….do they think folks will wait a year-and-a-half for work? It's quite sad….

8895 Towne Centre Dr.
San Diego, CA 92122 

The new sign for Golden City:

This is an interesting one. I saw a change of signs occurring for Golden City earlier in the week. Then "FOY" Derric sent me a message asking what was going on.

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When I first saw the sign, I drove into the parking lot and peeked into the restaurant…..the guy working and the decor looked the same. My one source said it was still the same with a change in the Chinese name of the place. The Missus said that in Chinese the name is now something along the lines of "Prosperity Palace". So we'll see…..

5375 Kearny Villa Rd.
San Diego, CA 92123

And there's more; but I'll save that for a future post. Hope you're having a wonderful week!

Xin Chao Eatery

I had been searching for some new pho places relatively close to work. Yes, I wanted to try something new. And Xin Chao appeared, in Del Mar Highlands Center. Hmmm……. So, I headed on over.

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A very nice modern space. Part Vietnamese restaurant, part gastropub….. for some reason Shank and Bone came to mind.

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And then when I took a look at the menu with regards to pho…well, no tendon, tripe and such. Though "dem bones", or should I say, a bone (Xí Quách Suon Bò) was available as well as an oxtail version. The folks working the front of house were quite mellow and friendly. I placed my order……

I saw chicken wings on the menu….with a fish sauce version. My instincts was to order the salt and pepper version, but I still miss the fish sauce wings from Que Huong, so I ordered that ($13).

Xin Chao 05 Xin Chao 06   Geez who'd have thought we would see prices at 2 bucks per chicken wings all those year ago! The wings were nicely battered, more crunchy than crisp, the texture was not bad at all. There was a sticky glaze, which was more toward the sweet than savory, though you could make out the fish sauce. The wings were on the larger side and was decently cared for with a minimum of bitter black portions around the bones. This was not bad at all and had me wishing I had ordered the salt and pepper version.

Looking at the menu, it hinted at "pho not to offend" since there were no options for tendon or tripe. Though thinking about the customer base what should I have expected? I ordered the House Special Pho which clocked in at $18. The key item for me was what I call "dem bones" (Xi Quach Suon Bo), though perhaps it should be called "that bone" since only a single rib was in this. I was soon presented with the basil and sprouts and the sriracha and hoisin.

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Let me just say that Xin Chao took the "silver medal" with regards to the smallest portion of herbs and sprouts….the second least amount I've experienced next to Mom's Pho and Grill in recent memory.

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Well, at least it was more than the 16 bean sprouts I counted there….I think.

My bowl soon arrived, blazing hot…..like so hot I had to wait ten minutes before really tucking in.

Xin Chao 07 Xin Chao 10I was able to try the rib bone. The meat was on the chewier side but came off the bone nicely and was actually the beefiest cut provided. Because the broth was super hot, the rare steak was over cooked by the time of consumption. The rest of meats were bland and tasteless as well. 

The waiting for the molten broth to cool down pause also meant that the noodles, which were in the typical clump were somewhat overcooked and headed toward mushy.

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The broth, while tending toward the overly "sweet" San Diego style was not bad……it was very clear and defatted thus on the thinner side and lacking in richness, but still had a hint of beefy-anise tones to it. 

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This was not bad overall, a modern rendition that bordered on "hipster pho and pho not to offend", but was still pretty good. I really liked the folks working here.

So, I returned.

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This time to try the Crispy Salt and Pepper wings.

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These wings seemed not as crisp as what I'd had before. So, I'm not sure if they bread/batter the wings differently based on flavor. Still, the garlic-salt-pepper flavor came thru nicely, and the fried appendages were quite moist and tender.

This time I ordered the Oxtail Pho ($17), which came with the same shall we say

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As for the bowl, my goodness, it was even more scalding hot than the bowl before!

Xin Chao 14 Xin Chao 16  But at least I didn't have to worry about my rare steak being overcooked. Based on my last visit, I decided to time how long it took before I could safely partake of my pho. Cautiously taking sips things timed out at twelve minutes and seventeen seconds. As you can see; the soup was very clear, though it wasn't as sweet-salty this time around. It did have a nice beefy "nose" with hints of star anise. 

There were three good sized oxtails, plus one "runt" provided. The oxtails were cooked perfectly, easy enough to take off the bone with chopsticks, but not falling to pieces to be lost in the soup. 

I'm thinking the extra time I needed for the soup to cool enough really messed up the noodles as like on my previous visit it was on the mushy side. 

Overall, a decent bowl.

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It seems like Xin Chao is trying to ride that line of pleasing non-"pho-natics", those hoping for a more modern rendition of pho, yet trying to keep the spirit of traditionality. The prices are in keeping with the location…that is, on the high side of things. I like the folks working here, they are quite nice. A far cry from "the fastest pho in the west", which the "pho-natic" in me enjoys. Ok, enough pho puns for a while…..

I'll try and revisit in a couple of months if the weather is cool enough and perhaps see how the bone marrow is as well.

Xin Chào Eatery
3545 Del Mar Heights Rd.
San Diego, CA 92130
Current Hours:
Daily 11am – 9pm

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COMC, The Road Trip Edition – Revisits to Bistro Na’s and Canton Restaurant – Cháo Cá Chợ Cũ

During the late fall and early winter, we made several road trips to revisit Mountain House. We decided to stay the evening and make a stop for lunch on the way home. We revisited places I've already posted on, so I thought I'd just post mostly photos of those meals. So, here I go C(learing) O(out the) M(emory) C(ard) again

Bistro Na's:

Good lord, how many posts have I done on the place since our first visit in 2019? There have been some changes over time. Bistro Na's lost their Michelin Star in 2022 and many of the dishes we'd enjoyed in the past are no longer on the menu. We've also noticed some inconsistencies in execution and quality as well.

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But, on this visit, the Tofu Skin and the Smoked Duck Breast were as good as ever.

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What we consider to be their signature dish, the Crisp Shrimp was not however.

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The shrimp lacked the plump tenderness of what we'd had before and the shells seemed to have been fried differently as they were hard instead of being light and crisp.

And did we really spend $22 for a tiny portion of under seasoned Ong Choi? It was listed as having fermented bean curd, but there was not much of the cheesy-salty-savory-sweet flavor present.

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After this visit, we decided to give Bistro Na's a rest for a while. There's no much more to explore in the SGV.

Bistro Na's
9055 Las Tunas Drive
Temple City, CA 91780

Canton Restaurant – Cháo Cá Chợ Cũ:

Well, this is now our default stop for Cha Ca. Ever since that initial visit, the Missus has been wanting to return. We've been back three times….I basically have stopped taking photos here. The food has been consistent on all our visits.

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Tons of fresh herbs and veggies.

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Funky mam nem, a generous portion of bun……extra onions which we put on the sizzling plate.

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And we usually get the Cha Gio as well.

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Plus, they open at 930am, which is great for our return trip home.

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Canton Restaurant – Cháo Cá Chợ Cũ (Cash only)
8550 Westminster Blvd.
Westminster, CA 92683

Banh Mi Express (Formerly Phuong Nga Bakery and Cafe)

I was driving on Clairemont Mesa Boulevard when I noticed a Grand Opening sign. It was on the shop that was Phuong Nga Bakery and Cafe. Heck, I didn't even know that Phuong Nga had closed. So I headed into the parking lot to take a look.

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The sign read "Banh Mi Express". Well it was nearly lunch time, so I decided to walk in and get me a Banh Mi.

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They had taken out all of the tables from one side of the place, but the interior looks basically the same.

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I just decided to get the Dac Biet….which well….it's the "Banh Mi Special" on the menu. It $7.59, which is sixty cents more than what it cost during my last visit to Phuong Nga Bakery and Cafe.

I recognized the young man working and had a brief chat. He told me that yes, the shop has new owners, they still bake their own bread fresh, and that the place is not associated with another "express"; Banh Mi Paris Express.

Here's the Banh Mi Dac Biet.

Banh Mi Express 04 Banh Mi Express 05  Well, this is about the same as Phuong Nga. The bread is very crusty which I like, though a bit more chewy than I prefer. These days, many banh mi shops don't even include cucumber in their sandwiches; but it's present here. The jalapeno was pretty mellow on this sandwich. Of course, one of my pet peeves; the cilantro was mostly stems….I already floss daily; I don't need to have my sandwich doing it as well. The proteins are sliced on the thicker side and there are less pickled veggies than before. What I really liked about this sandwich was the amount of pate. Upon biting, the pate basically  oozed out…a funky, earthy, creamy, savory "puss" of the most delicious sort.

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In terms of proportion and bread, I do prefer Paris Sandwiches, but Banh Mi Express is my favorite in the area. So, it looks like things are about the same as Phuong Nga Bakery and Cafe. And that'll do just fine for me. And I'm glad they are open on Saturdays as well. Banh Mi Express 00

Banh Mi Express
9353 Clairemont Mesa Blvd.
San Diego, CA 92123
Current Hours:
Mon – Fri    7am – 5pm
Saturday    10am – 3pm
Closed Sundays

777 Noodle House Revisited

My (rather) recent revisit to Minh Ky was a good reminder that I hadn't been visiting all those places that were fairly regular stops for me over the years. Man, had it been over a year-and-a-half since my last visit? I guess these times have had an affect on me…….I don't go to far afield these days when perhaps I should. So, I decided to head on over to 777 Noodle House.

It was a weekend morning, but things were pretty quiet.

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The staff working were the same from my first visits way back in 2010.

I simply ordered what had become my usual here over the years, the Hu Tieu Nam Vang Kho.

777 Rev 02 777 Rev 03  I was interested to see if things had changed much. So, like before, the Hu Tieu was in the bottom of the dish, where the savory-mildly salty and sweet sauce resides. There have been times when the hu tieu was over cooked and mushy. But gladly, this was not one of those days has the noodles had some good al dente pull to them.

There was less ground pork than on previous visits and basically only one sliced fish ball, so it seems that the economics of the times are catching up. The shrimp was over cooked and tough. I've always enjoyed the blanched bean sprouts.

One of my favorite items is stewed pork hock in broth. There's something just primevally wonderful about gnawing on that bone. On this day however, the provided "broth" was thin, watery, tasting like MSG-water.

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Sadly, the overall dish just seemed a mere shadow of its previous self. I'm hoping this was just a one time experience. It would be sad if this is the new "norm".

777 Noodle House
4686 University Avenue
San Diego, CA 92105

This visit had me wondering if you've been having disappointing visits to places that were once regular stops for you?

Mien Trung Revisited

The recent cooler (by San Diego standards) weather had be craving some Bun Bo Hue. I decided to head on over to Mien Trung.

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As always, the owner "Boo" greeted me as I entered and chided me for not having visited in a while. I didn't realize it at the time, but it had been over a year since my last visit! Whoa.

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We had a nice chat and I ordered my usual; the Bun Bo Hue ($12), these days the small bowl will do fine by me.

MT Rev 03 MT Rev 04  The plate of sprouts, greens, and herbs were fresh, the bun slippery and nicely textured. For some reason, the broth seemed more spicy than usual; or perhaps I'm just getting wimpy in my old age. That combined with an assertive lemongrass flavor and singeing heat really set my lips on fire.

The rustic thick cuts of beef were full of bovine goodness and the pig's feet had a nice thick layer of skin. I'm not not the biggest fan of the crunchy tendon provided, but have gotten used to it over the years.

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Hard to believe I've been coming here for over 17 years! It's still my favorite Bun Bo Hue. I need to visit more often.

Mien Trung Restaurant
7530 Mesa College Dr
San Diego, CA 92111

Minh Ky – Under New Ownership

This past weekend, after returning from our last trip, I was craving some "comfort food"….which at that time meant noodles…and in this case Beef Satay Egg Noodle "dry" ("Kho"). So, of course Minh Ky came to mind. Especially since I've been going here since way "back when". In fact, it was one of my last stops before the Covid shut down in 2020. What has recently changed is the ownership of Minh Ky. I was interested to see if things were different after the change of ownership. I did wait until we got back from our last trip and visited this past weekend.

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Upon arrival there were some things that were totally the same….for instance; that parking lot is still terrible. The back parking lot is now totally run by Paris Bakery and there are warning signs posted not to park there. The sign for Minh Ky however, is quite shiny and new!

Though the interior looks the same.

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I noticed that prices have gone up since my last visit in March of last year, though my guess is that prices have risen everywhere. The Mi Sate Thit Bo is now $11.95 and guess what? There's now a 50-cent upcharge for getting it "Kho" (dry).

Still old habits die hard, and I really wanted to see if my favorite dish from Minh Ky had changed with the ownership. The young lady working said they've kept the kitchen staff.

Minh Ky New O 04  Minh Ky New O 05  There was one thing I quickly noticed when my bowl arrived; the portion size seems a bit larger than before. Also, the sauce was a lot "redder" in color and while it had a decent savory-nutty – pungency, was also saltier than I recalled. The beef was not quite as nicely velveted and was on the chewy side, though I've had that happen on previous visits.

The broth at Minh Ky had usually been on the weaker and blander side of the scale and perhaps it was me really focusing in on things; but take a look at how pale that soup is. It just speaks for itself.

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There was a good amount of tomato and onion. The noodles, which were provided in abundance were really undercooked, hard, and brittle.

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I'm not quite sure if it was me really focusing on things or what? But the couple on the table behind me was having a lively debate. The young man said that his egg noodle dish was not quite up to par and was very salty; the young woman said her won ton soup was just the same and the kitchen staff is the same. She punctuated the argument by telling the young man "I've been coming here my entire life, you never came here until we met 5 five years ago, so you obviously don't know what you're talking about!" Touche!

So, while I did detect some differences; I'll need to return in a couple of weeks….or months, this was obviously not quite to my liking, and see.

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So, tell me; if you've been to Minh Ky since the ownership change, have you detected anything different with what you had?

Minh Ky Restaurant
4644 El Cajon Boulevard
San Diego, CA 92115

Thien Huong

Waaaay back in December last year, Thien Huong a banh cuon chain from Vietnam, opened their first location in the US, in of all places, Mira Mesa! A couple of my coworkers and friends had visited and the reviews were mixed. A couple of them had never had banh cuon outside the US and thought they were too "thin"? Hmmm…..sounds like they've been chowing down on too much San Diego style banh cuon?

Anyway, the Missus really wanted to try the place out with me; but due to travel, conflicting work schedules, and yes, plain laziness we didn't make it until late July. And there was one item I wanted to try after that visit and I took my sweet time returning. But at last, here's my post on Thien Huong.

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We visited relatively early on a weekend since the place opens at 8am and take advantage of the ample parking before the lunch crowds and other businesses open.

This is one of those order at the counter places. You're given a number and grab a table. All of the young folks working here are really nice and accommodating. I saw some pretty "tough" behavior by customers during my visits and they just were so mellow.

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There are ten items on the menu; 4 banh cuon, 2 combo banh cuon, 4 "chảo" hot skillet breakfast type dishes with banh mi.

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We ordered the two specials, paid, and had a seat. The nice young man brought us water and eventually delivered our banh cuon.

Thien Huong 03  Thien Huong 04  The Missus ordered the combo with banh cuon trung, with eggs folded into the wrapper and the ground dried shrimp. First things first, the nuoc mam cham was way too sweet and really watered down. It was in dire need of more fish sauce and spice. In fact, the Missus was hatching a plan to possibly sneak in our own stuff next time.

The banh cuon were nice and thin, the egg version didn't stick together, was quite delicate, and was easier to eat and the pork and shallots added nice pungent savory tones. It was the better of the two. The shrimp was quite fishy and hard, the Missus didn't enjoy those much.

I got the basic Banh U'ot and Banh Cuon Thit – the ground pork version.

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We enjoyed the Banh Cuon Thit, it was tender, good savory tones, and the sweet-pungent shallots lifted things. The simple banh cuon with onions really stuck together and were hard to separate, tearing as we tried to devour them.

The cha lua, tofu, and other proteins provided were pretty dry and bland. The bean sprouts and herbs were fine but really didn't add much to the dish.

While not quite as thin, moist, and tender as what we had in Vietnam, it still reminded us of our time there.

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Which is always a wonderful thing!

During our meal, the Missus and I noticed that a large majority of folks were getting that metal pan of "stuffs"; the "chao" style dishes. Basically, a protein-fest with banh mi . A few weeks ago, having a bit of free time I returned. After taking a quick look, I chose "Chao 1". As with my previous visit, I paid, took my number, and had a seat.

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The nice young man brought me water and eventually delivered my "brunch".

Thien Huong 07 Thien Huong 08  This was interesting in a way. The banh mi was nicely heated, a light crusty-flaky-yeasty, all that better to soak up the rather mild tomatoey "sauce-gravy".

I went down the line tasting the variety of items. The beef was bland and tough, really lacking in flavor.

Thien Huong 09 Thien Huong 09b   The hot dog cracked me up. It was….well, a hot dog, like something you bought at the grocery, a salty-sodium laden, tubular mystery meat. My favorite item by far were the meatballs which, while laden with filler were moist, tender orbs of beefy goodness. The eggs had a bit of "fishiness" to them and lacked seasoning, obviously not of the best quality, but decently sunny side up.

The cilantro and onion came in handy, especially for the overly bland beef.

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It struck me as I ate…..that this is the Vietnamese equivalent of the American bacon-eggs-toast-hash browns! A good amount of grub to hold you for a day of labor!

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Personally, we'll stick with the banh cuon, which is currently our favorite version in San Diego.

It's good to see new places like this opening up!

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Thien Huong
9349 Mira Mesa Blvd.
San Diego, CA 92126
Current Hours:
Mon – Tues 8am – 5pm
Thurs – Sat 8am – 5pm
Sunday 8am – 4pm
Closed on Wednesday